Scene Descriptions for Episode 1 and 5

Pseudo emailed me today with some spoilers that he wanted to post but couldn’t get to a PC. These spoilers include descriptions of upcoming scenes for episode 1 and for episode 5. Obviously if you don’t want to know what happens in the episodes avoid reading.

Episode 1

Scenes all set in the TARDIS
Amy has a book of some sort and ask where he got it from. The TARDIS console at some point explodes and The Doctor is franticly looking for the landing lights while the TARDIS is spinning out of control. Amy then dashes for the TARDIS door. The doctor at some point is dancing/prancing around

Location:London Bus
Rory gets onto the London Bus (seen from location images) and is surrounded by bright lights / beams of lights.

Location: “White Room”.

There is a close up shot of Rory lying on white floor.

Location: Junction Room

Close up of The Doctor and Rory at Junction Room monitor.

At some point during the episode:

A scene set in a Chinese Workshop which features a Chinese foreman character and a scene set in Amy and Rory’s house which features wine and the TARDIS fading away.

CJ Theory: this is just pure speculation on my part but I think that Amy/Rory fight and Rory storms off (shown in location shoot from other day). He goes and gets Divorce Papers and gets onto the London Bus. This bus however is controlled by the Daleks (hence the Dalek eye reported to be on the bus driver) and Rory is transported to the White room which is the Dalek ship we saw from Victory of the Daleks. This could mean that Amy never gets the divorce papers and the episode ends with them still happy waving goodbye to the Doctor but Rory has this secret that maybe Amy won’t find out until episode 5 (i.e heartbreaking)

Episode 5

Location: cellars of Grayle’s House
Rory is escorted down the stairs, something is moving in the dark. Rory lights a match and there is possibly something or someone there. It looks like Rory gets held hostage or taken by an Angel! Amy looks in the cellar. The Angels have taken Rory. The match gets blown out.

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http://pulse.yahoo.com/_SDKXF7OVU4UIN45NPVVFKJFCFI Michael

Interesting scenes, although I think the theory is quite a stretch.
- mdear
  
  Which given the stretching of credulity that was the plot of Series Six, it probably means that the theory is spot-on. :-p
  - http://pulse.yahoo.com/_SDKXF7OVU4UIN45NPVVFKJFCFI Michael
    
    Nope. The plot of Series 6 was reasonably straightforward. Try to keep up.
    - mdear
      
      I didn’t say it wasn’t straight forward. I said it stretched credulity. Maybe you should try using a dictionary if you’re confused as to the meaning of a word.
      - Microbat
        
        Asinine? Oh! New word! Thank you my friend!
      - Ian-crane
        
        mdear has it spot on.
        and every single thing he has said is true. I recorded a whole radio show on it. All you have to do is look BACK ONE Doctor to Tennants time. He was around for two 1/2 seasons and each episode was killer. Now there were “hidden themes” across each epsiode like Bad Wolf and The Master, but Davies kept it small and did not over the top he also didn’t shove the secret into every facet of every episode and tie himself up in knots.
        
        The best things Moffat can do is go back to stand a lone epsides that are each on their own kick ass and try to pretend season 6 didn’t happen.
        
        An example is the finale of season 6 . Bloody CARS being held up by BALOONS! Moffat REFUSES to do Science Fiction. he;s been quoted as saying he writes the show for his kids with monsters under the bed…When did Aliens become MONSTERS. I don;t fault the guy for not being able to proper aliens very well, so then stick to something simple like the first ever weeping angles episode which was tight and well written in a clever way around time travel.
        
        I’m sorry but frikkin SHARKS at Christmas don;t count. Even the Magical wagical trees from last year were slightly below average (and I love how they just decided to use the time vortex) but back to CARS and BALLOONS and ROME and PYRAMIDS?? History is one thing (and Moffat so does love his history) but I really miss the days of Rubber aliens every other episode.
        
        Another plus this seson (FINALLY) is grounding the Ponds in some reality with a father and a HOUSE. The biggest issue with the Ponds over the last two seasons is that they have essentially been ‘lost in time’. The best bit about Tennant was every few eps going back to London to see the family and the companions family, their reactions and the next big thing to hit London.
        The Ponds are all but vagrants, I mean what happened to the whole village in the very first episode?? I was looking forward to more episodes in their little town with the gay guy and his laptop and the little old lady and the hospital. It would have been good and another way to drop Mels into the background but noooo they had to get all turned around in killing or not killing the Doctor (what the?)
        
        Moffat does a number of things WRONG from using the sonic screwdriver like a wand (yes he WANTS it to be like Harry Potter) to getting too full of himself and cramming TOO much into each episode. It means that the episode cuts through itself too quickly without exposition and explanation.
        
        And they wonder why we have all these spoilers. Someone actually said to me “DIDN’T YOU SEE CONFIDENTIAL IT EXPLAINS THE WHOLE EPISODE” um, the episodes USED to explain themselves.
        Honestly the very first Matt Smith ep was the best! Also at least once an ep Tennant would get stuck on Earth. I swear all Smith is doing is filling in all the holes in time the other Doctors left behind, he hasn’t stopped long enough in 2011 or 2012 for the world to even remember he exists.
        
        Plus now the popularity (and younger age) of Matt means the pressure is on to film MORE doctor who MORE of the time so you get all these Youtube shorts which are cannon but should not be required to fill in the blanks.
        
        The Doctors (not death) was rubbish and ruined one the best new Episodes which was the first ep last season. Moffat continues to resort to things like ‘wishing’ ‘memory’ and ‘willpower’ where Davies has aspect of religion, god, resurrection and the enduring human spirit.
        Matt Msith has show 0 to LITTLE NONE Compassion for the larger and greater human race over the last two seasons. He is a self absorbed doctor that only cares for him and his companions. It is stupid- I love the show but have to little-rally dumb my brain down to accept some of the idea.
        
        it kinda pisses me off when Moffat says things like episode One will be like the MOVIE DIE HARD????!!! in season 7 and that he wanted aspects of INDIANA JONES in the finale from last season with the skulls.
        
        Curiously SHERLOCK shows that he can still make well written tightly woven shows but I thank GATTIS for that who should frankly get Who back in order.
        
        This season I feel though finally will see the Doctor sorted as he has to face his first challenge of a new companion which was really the mark of Tennant each season (FINALLY!!!)
      - Izzyyyim
        
        Surely you are being harsh on Moffat. I found that Davis’ plots revolved around the Daleks way to much for the finales, plus yes I agree some points in Moffat’s episodes are rushed quite a bit but you can’t say he hasn’t been planning river song. She first appeared in 2008 and we still don’t know all of her secrets.
        Spoilers
  - The_Eternal_Dalek
    
    This is a show about an alien that can change his entire body and travels through time in a police box that is bigger inside than out.
    
    So why do people need to attack Steven Moffat’s plots as being credulous when you could use that argument about the whole show?
    - mdear
      
      For reasons that are pretty obvious, that’s a rather silly defence. The reason I found that Moffat’s storyline of series six stretched believability is because it didn’t seem to follow its own internal logic. I generally find that for a sci-fi or fantasy show to work for me, it has to have its own internal logical consistency, otherwise things start to get silly and my interest wanes. I found myself shaking my head in disbelief a few times during the series six arc episodes because it felt as if Moffat had written himself in to a corner and was inventing any old thing to get out of it.
      
      Of course, that won’t be the same for everyone and I’m really pleased that some people enjoyed the bits of series six that I didn’t.
      - The_Eternal_Dalek
        
        It does hold its own internal consistency. Not necessarily with other things that have appeared in the show but one of the most important rules of Doctor Who is that internal consistency is all that matters, if it doesn’t match up with the rest of the show then it won’t matter as long as the story is decent.
        
        Moffat gave the example of The Curse of the Black Spot, which at times contradicts lines from The Smugglers but the new story has to come before the old otherwise the writers tie themselves up in knots over nothing.
        
        The War Games claims a Time Lord is immortal barring accidents, and seven years later we are told a TIme Lord can only regenerate twelve times. They can’t both possibly be true all that matters is the one the writers go with for their own story. Over referencing and connecting is deemed inappropriate by the production team both now and always to avoid alienating people who are not a big fan of the show or science fiction (and who make up 99% of the overall audience).
      - mdear
        
        I disagree that the only consistency should be within the episodes themselves. Sure, no one is expecting the series to be consistent with things that were written decades ago. That’d be impossible and would probably hem things in a bit too much. But, I sort of expect that a consistency should be maintained within a single showrunner’s tenure.
        
        But of course that’s just my opinion and what works for me. Moffat obviously has a different opinion and he’s welcome to it. Though I’m afraid that it doesn’t work for me.
      - The_Eternal_Dalek
        
        You are entitled to your opinion of course, but it’s been a policy that has applied to the show ever since it began. We know of some memos made in the 70s over some potential scripts where the writers seemed a bit irritated at people wanting to make up whole stories expalining plot points or bending over backwards to explain the TARDIS’ isomorphic controls only working in Pyramids of Mars.
        
        Only one showrunner has ever attempted full internal consistency over the whole show and he came under a lot of critisism for it. But then again people do like picking holes in John Nathan Turner’s version of the show anyway.
      - mdear
        
        In fairness, JNT came in for criticism for just about everything, irrespective of whether it was to the shows detriment or not.
        
        Anyway, I suspect that you think that I’m looking for a rigidity that I’m not. I’m just not a big fan of inexplicable plot twists that come out of nowhere, because I find them difficult to swallow. There were plenty of opportunities for Moffat to provide some foreshadowing for the more incredible twists and that he didn’t just gives me the impression that he hasn’t really thought the story through. Which would have been fine a couple of decades ago, but the planning and execution of story arcs have come a long way since then and the sort of slap-dash plotting that Moffat seems to be giving us, just doesn’t really cut it for me.
        
        That being said, he could of course have this all intricately planned and have something lined up for Series Seven that ties everything up neatly.
      - The_Eternal_Dalek
        
        Steven Moffat has had this planned for a long time, he has made that clear on several occassions in the past. People like to critisise him for plots suddenly cropping up out of nowhere. People have had a go at him over Twitter for things like Mels and the Tesselecta popping up out of nowhere but the problem is realistically if the Doctor is travelling through time and space he isn’t always going to know of everything before it happens otherwise you’ll get problems with too many mysterious prophecies beign introduced, the Doctor hates foreknowledge and has made that clear in the past. People may feel cheated out of a massive plot arc lasting years and years but the press and fans have been critisisng the show something rotten for having a plot arc that lasts two series so the ending does seem rushed. Half of people wanted it over quicker, and the other half want it longer, he can’t keep everyone happy, he is only human.
        
        Also, we are getting stuck in a corner again.
      - mdear
        
        Indeed we are. So I’ll be brief.
        
        I think you’re confusing prophecy and foreknowledge with foreshadowing.
        
        And as to not expecting such things because it would be unrealistic, I refer you to your opening post regarding the believability of the concept.
      - Microbat
        
        How far to the side can this go?
      - Microbat
        
        I’d love to find out!
      - mdear
        
        Well there’s only one way that we’ll find out!
      - Awesomebuffalo12
        
        Getting closer….
      - mdear
        
        Will there be no end to this madness?!?
      - anonymousbloke
        
        This is definitely really to the side. DW for the iwn!
      - Au
        
        I mean, by your own admission, that regeneration revision came SEVEN YEARS later.
        No one’s saying that the stories are immutable (that’s half the fun of changing directors/writers)…but you’ve got to let the rules you’ve set…actually SET for a while, for goodness sake. Longer than a story arc, at the very least.
        Little bon mots like Melody’s name (“You named your daughter…after your daughter”) are inconsequential and nice in a timey-wimey way that’s become Moffat’s stamp, but then a lot of people were asking, “If this Mel is Amy’s bff, and so important, why haven’t we heard the slightest word about her, even in passing, until that very episode in which her presence was required?” And that’s something as small as Melody/River’s name, not to mention larger story devices.
        This by no means is strong enough to tear Doctor Who asunder or make the storytelling anything less than addictive and entertaining, but internal consistency is just par for the course in fiction, no matter what genre.
      - The_Eternal_Dalek
        
        Why haven’t we heard of Mels? I’ll give you the same explanation Moffat himself gave.
        
        How would you introduce her? At what point in the show so far has it ever been appropriate to introduce or even mention Mels? The answer is it never has, the first time it became suitable was during Let’s Kill Hitler. If he had introduced Mels earlier then he would be leaving the twist in the open, he wants to keep things a suprise and its hardly a suprise if the character was introduced three months earlier out of the blue for no reason at all, people are going to realise that something is up and guess the plot twist.
        
        Many of us managed it just from the name before filming began, so how much easier would it be if the name had been circling around in the general public. There is a point where foreshadowing becomes ridiculous. Mels was deemed unsuitable, but the Tesselecta was important to set up before the story due to its part in the larger story arc, rather than a tiny part of an ongoing storyline.
doctorwhofan1

The theory is a bit far fetched but quite an interesting theory and definitely something to keep an eye on. Looking really forward to these episodes!
- mdear
  
  My theory is that the Daleks are big Amy/Rory shippers and kidnap Rory to prevent him filing the divorce papers.
Jason Downs

but how did rory escape the dalek ship it sounds good
- The_Eternal_Dalek
  
  White room?
  
  Maybe the bus just crashed and Rory just got death no. 10.
Bev Brown

its only a theory could be something entirely different
Bev Brown

i heard a rumour the doctor was going to do something for the emporer of china in an episode with snow in it
- mdear
  
  Yes, I think someone overheard something along those lines during location filming.
Bev Brown

it doesant look like rory is going to have a good time in this series
Bev Brown

where is riversong
Bev Brown

I think the daleks are doing things differently they grabbed rory that little dalek thing on the bus could be a spying device or tracking device this series might be more fun than series 6
Bev Brown

maybe the daleks turned the emporers terracotta army into robots and thats whats chasing them in the trailer
Jason Downs

its a good theory someone only theorized that they would involve the statue of liberty somehow but it is true
theories can be correct
Karl Erik

Damn.. Can’t wait !
Pharap

Dislike that theory.

Not sure what a London Bus is doing in China. Maybe the Daleks decide to hold Rory hostage to get at the Doctor, and it just so happens that their HQ is currently in china. Amy realises Rory has been kidnapped, so she finds a way to contact the Doctor. When the Doctor and Amy arrive in china, the Daleks reveal that they are directly targeting the Doctor and they knew the only way to get him was to make one of his companions contact him, thus they targeted a pair that had managed to contact him before (crop circles). As for what else they are planning – no clue.
EP 5 is starting to look like the whole ‘Rory and Amy raise River’ thing.
- Sarahisaherz
  
  Yeah, that’s my theory too, they said that they were going to New York in the past and in the episode “Let’s Kill Hitler” Rover says that she regenerated her first time in Times Square as a toddler or something…think about it, they are going to see River as a kid I bet!
Jason Downs

RIVERSONG IS GOING TO BE IN THE 5TH EPISODE NYC THERES BEEN A CALL FOR A STUNT DOUBLE FOR HER
Jason Downs

FILMING IS GOING TO BEGIN IN NYC TOMMORROW
edoe101

I disagree with some of that theory. The bus is probably controlled by the daleks, but I read that Rory gets zapped by a weeping angel in episode 5 and there is a funeral for him.
http://www.robbob.tk LJDarten

all this conversation and no one mentioned how ridiculous it is that rory would get divorce papers? It undermines his whole character if he is just willing to walk away from their relationship.

I guess they could have their relationship change to where it seems feasible but I don’t think there is enough time for it.
- Craig
  
  Yeah, it does seem a tad disappointing. One of the things I’ve loved about Rory is the way that Moffat has finally managed to right an ongoing male companion (Jack doesn’t count as he was only in his original run for a few episodes) that manages to self-actualise the hole ‘male fantasy’ in the same way that they the female characters get to become the fuil ‘female escapist fantasy’.
  
  One of the tropes of the Doctor Who revival (very different to traditional Dr Who, where you had a much wider variety of companions, arguably the best being Jamie the highland warrior and Zoe the future science wiz that accompanied the 2nd doctor), is that you have a female ‘every day working class girl’ who finds out her inner talents and strength of character, and leaves her boring old life (and boyfriend) behind.
  
  With Rory, they did a really good job of sitting down and thinking ‘how could we do a male version of this, that would appeal to guys, without putting of the women by making him too much of an action hero’, and they did it brilliantly: the guy who starts of with no fighting skills but is willing to die for Amy without the slightest thought, who gets killed off – repeatedly and unfairly – before being brought back to life as a plasic monstrosity. Who then is still good old clutzy Rory, but at the back of his mind has a little switch that every know and then, when Amy is in grave danger, unlocks and lets him remember his 2000 years of being a master of combat as the 2000-year-old last centurion (I loved the little references to that in the last series: Doctor: ‘We’re talking about the kicking the Romans out of Rome. I was there when that happened.’ Rory: [look of badass determination] ‘so was I’. And then of course his suiting up in his centurion gear for battle in ‘A good man goes to war’.
  
  It just does a magnificent job of turning him into every ordinary guy’s fantasy – grounding him in the real world, but still making him the super-husband, the super-lover who will fight to the death for Amy, and has the powers to make a pretty damn good fight against anyone who dares threaten here (without diminishing Amy’s own badassness in the slightest).
  
  Rory’s single-minded dedication to Amy – so emphasised even in their comparative reactions to having to wait for each other (Rory waits for 2000 years voluntarily, without complaint, to guard against the slightest risk that amy will be harmed in the Pandorica, whereas Amy goes nuts and gets all vindicative after being left for a mere 30 years after a time glitch) – is such a central part of his heroism that removing it would be as big a blow to his heroism as taking away his ‘mental switch that turns on the 2000 years of centurion badass’. The whole point of the character’s heroism is that he’s 100% devoted to fight to the death for Amy, regardless of whether he’s fighting as Rory the clutzy nurse or Rory the last centurion. I just hope they manage to write this in in a way that doesn’t destroy the best (and just about the only good) male companion in the show since the Brigadier.
Jennifer

@Jason Downs, the Statue of Liberty is the queen of all Weeping Angels.
???

Amy murders Rory is my theory…
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Samuel Ahmed

Are Amy and Rory going to leave the TARDIS at the end of each episode in this series. From what I can tell, the Doctor takes them on one trip then drops them off again, and again, and again, until someone dies in Episode 5.
Starfishluvsyou

so fricken excited!!!
Izz The Wizz

I doubt Steve Moff would make them divorce or want to divorce. I think they both die togetehr or something, what is certain is that the Weeping Angels are due to be a huge part in the epsidoe and have something to do with their heart breaking detah or heart breaking departure. Thanx for trying, but personally I find that Moff wouldn’t make them divorce. And if he does, I’m gonna cry!!! :’(
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